Late Bloomer

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  Undeserved kindness

  by life is to short in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just a side note that i found interesting and sort of upsetting, the wt that the jw's will study on sunday the 18th of september has the words undeserved kindness mentioned 50 in just 19 paragraphs.

  really they need to beat it into their people that they are very worthless and do no deserve anything from god?

  so much so that they use the words over and over, don't they.. lits .

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  What exactly is the "kindness" that we're so undeserving of? Not being turned into bird food at the Big A?
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  Visit From Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  had two lovely jws (stephen and ruth) visit this morning.

  this was our second study in the last 2 weeks.

  they first knocked on my door (bell is out) 3 weeks ago and i shared my testimony and we arranged to meet last tuesday which we did.. our first study went like this:.

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  Opening her mind to the inconsistencies of her religion. I like Vanderhoven's method of backing S&R into a corner with their own JW literature. Could he do that if he weren't Christian? Maybe, but maybe the fact that they all share a common ground (belief in the bible) makes S&R more open to discussion.

  As much as I would love for JWs to leave belief behind completely, that's probably not a realistic path for most. Even some athiests on this forum were believers for a while before settling on logic and reason over faith. I understand your position, but if Vanderhoven can get these JWs to examine their beliefs more critically that's a huge accomplishment in itself.

  Genuine question. Would it be better for our JW relatives to convert to Judaism or Islam rather than embracing a godless reason and rationalism?

  Better for them or us? I'm selfish and I want a JW-free family so I can share my thoughts, opinions and life with them without fear of rejection. I'm less concerned with whatever belief system they choose, than how that belief system instructs them to act towards those outside it. They could embrace reason and still suck as people.
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  Visit From Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  had two lovely jws (stephen and ruth) visit this morning.

  this was our second study in the last 2 weeks.

  they first knocked on my door (bell is out) 3 weeks ago and i shared my testimony and we arranged to meet last tuesday which we did.. our first study went like this:.

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  We should be fighting to free the people we love from the faith based mentality which is at the root of all these problems.

  Vanderhoven I bear you no ill will but I hope no one has a discussion with my Mum like you are having with these two JWs, it would only reinforce the trap she's in.

  That's a bit of putting the cart before the horse isn't it? I gently suggest to my mom that there is no Jehovah and I don't believe in god altogether she responds with "Even people we meet at the door don't talk like that!" In other words, those worldly Christians who are part of "false religion" still hold more credibility with her than an atheist. She will never entertain any argument I put forth to explain my (non)belief. At her age, I don't hold out hope that she will ever be free of JWs, but if anyone has the best chance of opening her mind it'll be a Christian. Flies being more attracted to honey than vinegar or however it goes. Yes, I'm the vinegar.
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  Heaven is ready and prepared for Armageddon - Talk A Morris III

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  and why he doesn't go to the gym, jog or workout!

  also no survivalist mentality is required.deciphering warship has posted a youtube of part of the speech given by the one and only, anthony morris the iii at last years imitate jesus convention.deciphering warship makes this comment.

  governing body member anthony morris demonized preparing for this disaster by building such a bunker or (bomb shelter)going so far, as to warn even against stocking up food.

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  I don't think his talk contradicts the bunker video. None of those JWs looked prepared for anything. No food, no change of clothing, no medicine or toiletries. They would've resorted to eating their bibles...or each other. Thank goodness they were rescued at the end.
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  Automatic log-out after a period of inactivity on this site?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. forum
  2. suggestions

  hi simon,.

  i noticed that most financial sites like banks have an automatic log out after some time of inactivity.. could a similar thing work here perhaps?.

  if someone has logged on, but not used the site for say 20 minutes, could they be logged out and have to reenter the passwords?.

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  If the sign out button worked it would be nice. I would have to create a new password, though, because my "assigned" one is complicated.

  Sign out works for me. Have you tried deleting cookies?
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  Automatic log-out after a period of inactivity on this site?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. forum
  2. suggestions

  hi simon,.

  i noticed that most financial sites like banks have an automatic log out after some time of inactivity.. could a similar thing work here perhaps?.

  if someone has logged on, but not used the site for say 20 minutes, could they be logged out and have to reenter the passwords?.

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  That would prevent someone accidentally leaving their log-ins and username visible if they leave the computer accidentally open....and save some potential issues for those fading...

  I sympathize with faders but what you call "accidentally" I call "carelessly." My suggestions:

  • Log in using an incognito/private window.
  • "I am not on a public computer." <---leave this unchecked.
  • Never let your browser remember the password for this site.
  • Get into the habit of quitting your browser completely when you leave your computer.
  • Consider using one browser only for this site, and another browser for the rest of your web surfing, and again, completely quit it when you're done.

  Financial institutions log you out automatically because it cuts down on fraud/theft claims which saves them money. They don't care about your security.
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  CLAM Video: Aug 8-14 2016 – “Older Ones - You Have an Important Role”

  by Nicholaus Kopernicus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this video portrayed an elderly widowed sister who was a former pioneer and now reduced to submitting field service reports of 15 minute increments.

  she was also portrayed as quite frail in that she ambulates with the use of a quad rollator frame.

  she was very neatly attired and groomed and what the video showed of her apartment conveyed everything perfectly tidy to a level which would have relaxed an ocd sufferer.

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  Elders can only get so close to younger sisters without arousing suspicion. It makes sense to have older sister--who has tons of spare time-- befriend younger sister and get her to spill guts to older sister. Then because older sister is so loyal and indoctrinated she will feel compelled to snitch to the elders as she is trained to do. Younger sister is hauled into a JC before she knows what hit her. A very important role, indeed.
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  Shepherding Visit Riposte

  by Nicholaus Kopernicus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if an elder approaches you and wants to arrange a shepherding call one possible response is..... "well thankyou brother, but jehovah is my shepherd.

  i shall lack nothing.

  (ps 23:1) but thanks again anyway".

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  "You are rejecting Jehovah's theocratic order." That's what they'd say.
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  I think this is an important question...

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when i first met my wife and on that so important first date i was 21 years old and sadly broke, she was an 18 year old au pair.

  any way i treated her to mcdonald's but she had to pay for the meal.

  now over 20 years later and still together, i realize how lucky i was she didn't say on that first date " if you can't afford to pay "our" mcdonald's meal f...off" .

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  Whoever asks for the date pays or

  Whoever chooses the restaurant (or movie, or activity) pays or

  Become gay so it's always the man (or woman) who pays.
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  Happiness and Freedom On A Paradise Earth?

  by Disassociated Lady 2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  at a recent meeting there was a watchtower article about life in paradise.

  they were saying that even when witnesses finally get there they will still be under the strict instructions from the elders and gb.

  they may be given jobs that they will find unpleasant, also the preaching work will be ongoing because of all the resurrected people who need to learn about why they are given another chance.

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  The paradise earth doesn`t begin after armageddon , it doesn`t start till after the thousand years of Jesus Christ`s reign when Satan & his demons are let loose for a time and then finally destroyed.

  Sounds like Jehovah is playing a cat and mouse game with Satan-- playing with his prey before gobbling it up. Why let Satan run loose before destroying him? What's the point?